<p>Questions Without Notice from Party Spokespeople</p>

Part of 2. 2. Questions to the Cabinet Secretary for Health, Well-being and Sport – in the Senedd at 2:45 pm on 29 March 2017.

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Photo of Vaughan Gething Vaughan Gething Labour 2:45, 29 March 2017

We fully expect every NHS service to have safe staffing levels. I recognise what you say about agency costs, in that it isn’t just nursing agency costs; there are agency and locum costs across our system that are part of the very real financial challenge that we face in delivering and sustaining models of care. There’s an honest conversation to be had about whether we are sustaining models of care that are right and appropriate, or whether we’re actually spending money in a way that isn’t very efficient or appropriate. So, that’s a conversation that each of us will need to engage in, but, of course, in the field of nursing, we’re extending nursing levels with the implementation of the nursing levels Act. So, I expect to see more nurses recruited to Wales on a permanent basis.

But, following the first question that’s been asked, you’ll recognise that there is a challenge to that with the reality of how European Union based staff feel about coming into the UK. There are figures that are publically available on the number of nurses that have either left the UK, or are no longer considering coming here. In particular, in England, the source of recruitment from the European Union, as I say, has dried up significantly, and that is a real challenge for us in sustaining our services, and what that does mean in terms of having to pay an even higher cost to get staff into our health service to provide the care that all of us would expect to be delivered.