9. 7. United Kingdom Independence Party Debate: Welsh-medium Schools

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:56 pm on 29 March 2017.

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Photo of Mr Neil Hamilton Mr Neil Hamilton UKIP 5:56, 29 March 2017

[Continues.]—by the intolerant members of Plaid Cymru opposite; not that all members of Plaid Cymru are intolerant, but some of them clearly are.

Jonathan Edwards’s contribution to the debate has been to attack the Labour Party, saying that the Labour Party in Llanelli has run a nasty, divisive campaign against the plans of the local Plaid Cymru-led council. The institutional anti-Welsh prejudice of Labour locally is why working-class politicians like him, apparently, find their natural home now in Plaid Cymru. Of course, I won’t delay the Assembly any further with those kinds of remarks, not least the ones that are abusive towards UKIP. But I’d like to commend Nia Griffith, who is the Labour MP for Llanelli, for the approach that she has brought to this debate, because in her response to the county council’s consultation, she has said—I’ve got her contribution here somewhere—that,

Every child in Wales should have the opportunity to access school education through the medium of Welsh, and pupils in Llangennech currently have that opportunity through attending the Welsh stream. It would be counter-productive to the aim of increasing the number of pupils who can use the Welsh language if pupils then chose to attend English-medium schools because of this change.’

So, if the result of the intransigence of the county council’s policy is that you’re driving children out of dual-stream schools into an English-medium-only education, then that actually sets us back. It doesn’t actually take us forward. So, what I’m trying to do in the course of this debate today is to point the way forward that, yes, we will make enormous progress by the policy of the Government being implemented, and where WESPs are able to do that, but if we have a fight in Llangennech today, that’s nothing to the fight you will have when you want to try to introduce Welsh-medium education into areas that are far less Welsh speaking than Carmarthenshire. I want to avoid that consequence. [Interruption.] I want to avoid that consequence, which is why I support the principles that are expressed in the motion.

I see that Lee Waters is here to make his own speech, I hope, but I also approve of what he has said previously in this respect, that we need to take great care in the way that we deal with this. He was talking of the Minister when he said,

He and I share the ambition to ensure that all 16 year-olds are able to speak Welsh by the time they leave school, and continue to use it in everyday life. And we both want to maintain the goodwill that there has been towards the Welsh language.’

It will be a tragedy, and indeed a disaster, for the policy of achieving 1 million Welsh speakers by 2050 if we adopt the steamroller approach, and I commend our motion to the Assembly.