Can I thank Bethan Jenkins for her questions and points? I’d actually dispute the claim that nobody is against change. I think there has been resistance to this initiative. To those who have objected to closer collaboration, I would ask one very simple question: what’s your alternative vision? Because, quite frankly, if there is no vision, if there is no action, then the heritage sector will crumble in the years to come. So, it’s required action from the Government and that’s precisely what we are delivering.

In terms of the potential for a consultation, I don’t believe that a strategic partnership between those independent institutions would require a consultation unless they so wished to hold one, and a consultation on the future form of Cadw would be dependent on the business case and, ultimately, the proposal that we make for its future in or outside of Government. So, that would be a consideration for the autumn. In terms of the performance of all of the institutions, of course, we have Simon Thurley carrying out a review of the museum at the moment. He’s carrying out benchmarking work as part of his review. But the whole point of us changing the way that Cadw reaches out to the citizens of Wales, to customers, and to visitors, was because I felt that we were not maximising opportunities, based on albeit quite rough work that I did personally in looking at benchmarking Cadw sites against similar types of historic assets in England and Scotland. I think the fact that we’ve seen such a sharp rise in visitor figures at Cadw sites justifies the belief that I had, which was that we could and we should do more with our assets. It’s my belief that we should and can do more with all of the institutions in the years to come on behalf not just of the people who work in the institutions, but also the people, taxpayers, who pay for them, and visitors who walk through their doors. So, it’s my view that action is needed. There has been resistance to change. I think now, largely, that resistance has fallen away, but the test will be in how much everybody now embraces the need for a greater degree of collaboration and partnership.

Finally, the point made, or the suggestion that was made, that officials on the steering group somehow led the steering group to its conclusions, I do not think is a fair claim and I do not think that fairly presents the strength of opinion and expertise that was presented by those people representing the national institutions.

Diolch i’r Ysgrifennydd Cabinet.