5. 5. Debate on a Member's Legislative Proposal

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:32 pm on 5 April 2017.

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Photo of Mr Simon Thomas Mr Simon Thomas Plaid Cymru 3:32, 5 April 2017

(Translated)

Thank you, Presiding Officer. May I thank everyone who’s contributed to the debate and particularly thank the Minister, who’s just confirmed that the Government is still keeping in mind the need of a deposit-return scheme in Wales?

At the heart of this debate is the circular economy that David Melding and many other Members have mentioned. We must emphasise, in that context, that recycling something that can be reused is a waste of energy, a waste of resources and a waste of transportation very often. So, in moving towards a waste-free Wales, we should ensure that we reuse as much as possible, and that’s the purpose of this legislative proposal, to reduce that. We should also be collaborating towards an objective where we can’t use packaging in Wales that can’t be reused, recycled or composted. That should be the aim. And although there are some barriers, as Jane Hutt mentioned, in terms of doing that, we can overcome those problems with the right will and with some imagination.

And the final point, if I may, is this: who would have thought, five or 10 years ago, that just 5p would change the way in which people use plastic bags? If recycling were enough in and of itself, we wouldn’t see so much waste in our seas as we do at present, and on our beaches and in our environments. If 5p can do that for plastic bags, then a tax on polystyrene and a deposit-return scheme can also make a difference.