Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:25 pm on 5 April 2017.
A lot less than when it went up under the Labour Party. It takes a long time to turn a supertank around. At least we’ve started. Unfortunately, your party in Westminster didn’t.
I realise I’m out of time, Presiding Officer, so in conclusion to this non-partisan and fair-minded debate—or at least it started that way—I’m happy to join you, Mark Isherwood, on your revolution and on your tour of co-production and Welsh pubs. It sounds great fun. So, we can investigate together ways that we can boost local economies. At the end of the day, everyone in this Chamber had something good to say in this debate. Let’s focus on the positive. We all want to get to the same situation. [Interruption.] Yes, Alun Davies, let’s focus on the positive. We all want to get to the same end destination: we want public services that deliver properly for people in their local areas. Let’s work together where we can to try and develop that better system financially, economically and, indeed, democratically locally. The future can be gold, and if we just grasp it, let’s start now.