3. 3. Debate on the General Principles of the Trade Union (Wales) Bill

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 2:55 pm on 9 May 2017.

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Photo of Janet Finch-Saunders Janet Finch-Saunders Conservative 2:55, 9 May 2017

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[Continues.]—yet, we’ve been offered no firm evidence to support this assertion. Further, it is concerning to note that whilst those giving evidence in committee spoke of the apparent low cost of processing payroll deductions, not one could provide an actual figure for this. Prior to the UK Act, just 22 per cent of public sector organisations in the UK charge unions for this service despite another cost to the public purse. In local government alone in Wales, we know that over 30,570 employees pay subscriptions through payroll deductions. The combined cost of which cannot be insignificant. So, we welcome the UK Government’s actions to ensure that costs incurred by unions are covered by unions.

The UK Government legislation also recognises there are sectors in which industrial action has a wider impact on members of the public that is disproportionate and unfair. Allowing agency workers to cover striking workers will ensure that businesses and many of our vital services will be able to continue to operate to some extent. So, it is concerning to note that the Cabinet Secretary intends to include provision in this Bill to prohibit the use of agency workers as cover during industrial action involving devolved Welsh authorities.

Llywydd—Deputy—the Conservative-led UK Government is committed to transparent and clear Government legislation that does not cause undue administrative burden or create legal confusion for employers. We understand that regulations in relation to check-off and facility time will not include devolved Welsh public bodies within their scope until the Wales Act 2017 comes into force, and we know that the Wales Act will clarify that industrial relations are a reserved matter. The UK Government, I am confident, will act at the earliest possible opportunity following commencement of the Wales Act to ensure the protection of our public services. The introduction of this Bill is an insult to the people of Wales, who face far greater issues: a lack of GPs, poor transport, reduced classroom support for teachers, inaccessibility to life-preserving drugs and raised council tax.