Yes, of course I do. Of course I do. What you do with your own money is at the heart of the issue. And what I’m saying is that when the Government gives away taxpayers’ money no question of morality can arise, because it is somebody giving away other people’s money. There is no element of morality involved in that. So, the point of this debate is—[Interruption.] The point of this debate—[Interruption.] The point, if I may finish my remarks—. The point of this debate is simply to advertise the fact that a great deal of the money that is spent on overseas aid is spent on questionable projects, debateable projects, which don’t necessarily lead to the relief of poverty, the eradication of disease, the improvement of water facilities, et cetera, et cetera—all those things we can universally approve. Sending dance troupes to Ethiopia perhaps is not something of which we can approve—£5 million or whatever the figure was that was spent on that from the budget in 2013. I deliberately didn’t give colourful examples of that kind from the archives of the ‘The Daily Mail’—something to which I referred as an ironical remark in my speech earlier on—because I didn’t want to trivialise the debate or allow it to be trivialised.

But there is a serious point at issue here. We can choose to spend the money that we take from taxpayers in any number of different ways. We know that the health service is underfunded everywhere. It’s bound to be, given the nature of its construction and infinite demands that are placed upon it. We can choose to increase the aid budget by another £10 billion and take it away from some other budget. Well, if so, what is that other budget? Is that an example of moral superiority on the part of those who’ve taken the opposite side of the argument to us today? You know, there are plenty of things: what about the arts council and things like that? They are all virtuous things in themselves, but is it better to fund a theatre or a symphony orchestra than to relieve real poverty and eradicate disease? These are difficult questions and difficult choices that we all have to make.

But to take the view of the smug, superior, condescending approach that we’ve heard this afternoon I think demeans the debate. To think that out in the country, at large, a very small proportion of people would support the UKIP motion today I think is to fool yourselves. If you had some kind of a referendum on overseas aid then that would produce a very different result indeed—[Interruption.] And I see now that Members are not quite so keen on asking the people what they think about what we do with our money in that way. So—