I think I’ve taken one contribution. We’ve only got four minutes to speak, so, regrettably, although I’d like to give way, I don’t think I can.

Obviously, I accept point 3 of Plaid Cymru’s motion. I strongly believe that every single penny of what Brussels currently spends in Wales should be replicated by a UK Government promise, and I don’t think anybody who has the interests of rural Wales at heart would disagree with that. And, of course, who wants an irresponsible trade deal with anybody—as in point 2 of this motion? Of course we want to negotiate the best deal possible, not just with the EU, but also the other countries around the world—150, 160 countries, however many there may be—which constitute 85 per cent of the global economy. The European Union is, of course, very important to us, because they’re our nearest geographical neighbours. And, as Simon Thomas rightly pointed out in his opening speech, of course we have a very significant degree of trade between us that is mutually beneficial, but let’s not forget—[Interruption.] I’m sorry, I can’t give way more than once in the short time I have available, because it’s very important that I make my points rather than allow other Members to make theirs in the course of my speech.

In every single sector of trade in meat, the United Kingdom is in deficit and, in some cases, very substantial deficit. So, there is a massive possibility—if the EU is so foolish as not to want to enter into a free trade agreement with the United Kingdom, there is every prospect that we will be able to substitute what is currently imported with home-produced produce. Let’s just look at the figures: in beef and veal, we import £700 million-worth of meat a year, we export only £150 million; in the case of pork, we import £780 million—sorry, these are figures for 2007. Sorry, I’ll start again. For beef and veal, this year it’s over £1 billion-worth of imports for beef, and we export £369 million. For pork, we import £778 million-worth of meat; we export only £252 million. For lamb, this is the only—lamb and mutton is the only sector where we’re broadly in balance. And, of course, in lamb, there’s a particular problem in prospect if we don’t sort it out, because, as Simon Thomas rightly pointed out, a very substantial proportion of our imports come from New Zealand.

So, of course we must be astute to potential problems that will arise as a result of the massive upheaval that is inevitable in such a change of this kind. We had the reverse upheaval 40-odd years ago, which I remember very, very well, when we moved away from a deficiency payments scheme into a different form of support entirely. These are practical problems that can be sorted out.

But the figures, of course, are very small. This is what we have to remember. The British Government is going to spend, this year, £800 million. The total value of the whole agricultural sector in the entire United Kingdom isn’t even £10 billion. So, these are figures that can easily be accommodated within the United Kingdom budget. And of course we must fight for Wales, as Simon Thomas very rightly said, and that’s what we will do, but the idea that the UK Government’s going to pay the slightest attention to a handful of Plaid Cymru Members is absurd. It’s only UKIP that’s been able to turn the Government on its head, because, without us, there would not have been a referendum in the first place and we wouldn’t now be leaving the EU.