Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:53 pm on 13 June 2017.
The Member makes an excellent point with the last point there. The issue around universal service obligation has been one that’s exercised us for some time. We put a lot of pressure on the UK Government to acknowledge that this is a utility and not a luxury. I say this a lot to everyone. When we started this process, we used to market Wales as, ‘Come to Wales and get offline’, and now that is quite clearly not something that anybody ever wants to do, and it’s gone from a positive to a really serious minus. So, we’ve been pressurising the UK Government for quite some time to put a universal service obligation in, but also to treat this as a utility, because a lot of the problems that people are having in accessing superfast broadband are because their properties are stuck behind a piece of land that we can’t get across, and BT is left trying to negotiate a wayleave, or whatever, across the land. Unlike a utility, they have no right to cross the land and then pay an appropriate amount. They have to actually negotiate it. So, it’s perfectly possible that somebody could actually block off a whole village by simply not letting them cross their land, and that’s clearly unacceptable in the modern age.
In terms of the new builds, the Member has been very assiduous in writing to me about a number of the problems in her constituency. We’ve been talking to colleague Cabinet Ministers about the various difficulties in planning law, and about what we can do through section 106 agreements to ensure that councils put obligations on builders, where they’re building more than a certain number of properties, to connect to the superfast network as part of the obligation on the builder when they build an estate. But, we don’t have any way of enforcing that, other than through those obligations. So, we’re in active consideration about how we can do that, and in terms of the actual build itself, of actually making sure that the house itself is capable of it.
One of the big problems we have with modern technology is that the more insulated a house is, the more like a Faraday cage it is, and the less penetrable it is by mobile phone signals and broadband signals and so on. So, it’s a little bit of a conundrum. It’s about if you’re going to have very high levels of insulation and eco-sustainability in your house—which I, for one, am very much part of—then you want to make sure that that house is wired, because the Wi-Fi signal isn’t going to go through that insulation terribly easily. So, it’s about trying to get those building regulations and planning regulations lined up. It’s also about pressurising the UK Government into getting the service obligation right, and into acknowledging that this is not a luxury at all—it is now an essential, the same as water, electricity and so on are for people. Indeed, I think that, for some young people, it is probably more of an essential than some of those other things. So, I would be very grateful, Hannah, if you could write to me with specific areas. If you could check the interactive map, then we can talk about particular solutions for some of the estates in your area. And, obviously, that goes for all Members as well who have the same problem.