Lee Waters—it’s now become a tradition in this place for him to intervene and ask that question. I think he’s done it on every occasion that there’s been a debate here. And he’s obviously not pleased with the answers I’ve tried to give him. Let me say—[Interruption.] Let me say this, let me say this: I agree with the principle that has been outlined by the committee in terms of confirmation hearings, or whatever term we wish to use. I do agree with that process. This is not a Welsh Government process, it’s a UK Government process, so we don’t have the power to deliver that at present.

But I would suggest to the committee that this is a matter they continue to pursue. They certainly could pursue this with their colleagues in other institutions of the United Kingdom, and I certainly, as the Minister in Wales, would be very happy to see that sort of system introduced here for that level of accountability and scrutiny. But, in terms of where we’re going, the Chair, in her introduction to this debate, did outline some of her concerns about decisions taken by the BBC in terms of resources and funding, and then she made a rather unhappy comparison with Scotland. Let me say this: what I want to do is to hold the BBC accountable for what it delivers. The decisions that they take about budgets and structures within the BBC are a matter for the BBC and not a matter for us. However, what is right and proper that we scrutinise is what they actually deliver and what they actually produce on our screens.

I would counsel anybody who believes that establishing a standalone channel in English for Wales would succeed in garnering great audiences and would deliver a significant enhancement of our citizenship or democratic debate in this country—as somebody who has worked in broadcasting himself in terms of marketing and the rest of it, I would say to you it will be very, very difficult to grow significant audiences. Far better, I believe, is that the BBC network recognises the whole of its responsibilities to the whole of the United Kingdom, and the absolutely crucial thing for me is that we hold broadcasters to account for producing programming and reporting for the whole of the United Kingdom that represents the needs of the whole of the United Kingdom. Now, we haven’t seen that to date, we don’t see it at the moment, and I hope and believe that we should be able to ensure that we do have fair play when it comes to recognising the whole of the UK on our screens.

I’ll bring my comments to an end here, Presiding Officer, by saying this: I hope—and the point that was made by Lee Waters in terms of ITV and other public service broadcasters is well made—that, over the coming years, we can develop a culture of accountability that ensures that all broadcasters, all public service broadcasters, and all producers of news and entertainment produced in Wales for Wales are able to do so in a way that enhances not only our citizenship, but also our cultural and historical inheritance, and we create a country whereby we can have the debate that we need to have as a country, that platforms are created where people can talk and debate amongst ourselves, we can tell each other our stories, we can look at the world through our eyes, and we can, at the same time, be a part of a greater whole in the United Kingdom. To do that, we will need new structures of governance, new structures of regulation, and new structures of accountability. I hope, and I am confident, that the report that we’re debating this afternoon is a significant step forward to achieving that. Thank you very much.