8. 8. Plaid Cymru Debate: Brexit and the National Assembly for Wales

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:12 pm on 21 June 2017.

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Photo of Mark Drakeford Mark Drakeford Labour 5:12, 21 June 2017

Well, that machinery of Government is resuming. As I said, I’ve spoken myself directly to David Davis, I have a call with the Chief Secretary to the Treasury tomorrow, and I’ve come directly to the Chamber from a meeting of the JMC Europe, in which I represented Wales—Scottish Ministers were involved, and a series of UK Government Ministers were around that table as well. It’s not the absence of machinery, Dirprwy Lywydd, which has been frustrating over recent months, it is the spirit within which that machinery has been conducted, and that’s what we need to see altered.

Dirprwy Lywydd, I hope you will just allow me to deal finally with the third point in the motion, because it’s an important point that Eluned Morgan raised and I want to make sure that the Welsh Government’s position is clear in supporting the motion. Because this part of the motion refers to future trade deals, it’s an example of a policy area in which, while non-devolved, there is a direct Welsh interest in it, given the inter-dependencies with key aspects of the policy and regulatory context for devolved areas, such as steel, agriculture and fisheries.

We’ve made it clear that full and unfettered participation in the single market is our top priority. That’s fundamentally important to us in Wales, and we continue to believe that the UK should remain part of a customs union, at least for a transitional period, and we’ve been unconvinced by the UK Government’s arguments for leaving. I understand, of course, that remaining part of a customs union would mean, for as long as we were within it, that there couldn’t be any trade negotiations between the UK and other countries around the world. It’s in this context that we support the Plaid Cymru motion. We’re not accepting that trade deals with other countries is preferable to a continued membership of a customs union, but if we’re unable to be in that position, then the motion reflects where we would need to be.

Llywydd, let me end by saying that I want to stress that I believe the position we outlined in the White Paper, ‘Securing Wales’ Future’, continues to represent the right approach to secure the best outcome for Wales. It’s a document that has not simply stood the test of time, I believe it is more relevant today even than on the day that it was published, and its ability to influence events is stronger today than it was back when we first published it. I look forward to continuing to argue for it with others in this Chamber who are of the same mind.