Can I just ask then, why did you just have one conversation? If you had offered those sites, surely it would have been good for you, as a Cabinet Secretary, to be proactive in actually taking on some of the concerns that you would have prior to that public announcement. I’ve seen a list of quite a number of sites, which has clearly been given by your department. Were questions raised, such as, was this category C prison needed? The Wales Governance Centre has proven in research that such a size of a prison is not necessary for Wales. There’s no women’s prison, so why not have conversations with the MOJ with regard to expansion in that regard?

Can I just get an idea as to what ongoing conversations you’re having, to satisfy the people of Port Talbot that you are making every effort to make them aware of releasing the land, where that location will be—hopefully, it won’t be happening, but where the location you have identified would be—and how they will be kept informed of the process ongoing, via yourself, not just the UK Government?