Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:56 pm on 28 June 2017.
Can I begin by saying that UKIP will be supporting this motion? Indeed, I myself have argued for the emphasis to be on reducing carbon output by using the sort of strategies outlined in the motion proposals, rather than concentrating on so-called carbon-free energy production. Because there is, of course, no such thing as carbon-free energy production because the production of, say, solar panels or wind turbines themselves causes high degrees of carbon output, especially when you consider the long-distance transportation of these products. As my colleague pointed out in a previous debate, sea-going vessels are some of the most polluting agents on earth, and we know that the vast majority of solar panels, et cetera, are produced in China.