I can assure the Member this is not a laughing matter and it’s certainly not something that I find amusing at all. The challenge always is, whether in relation to an issue where we understand there is more than one reason for a rise in demand, and the inability of the health service to meet that demand—. The demand for a simple answer, to flick a switch and deal with it—that’s unlikely to be the case. And I would much rather be honest and deal with Janet Finch-Saunders saying that I’m waffling by explaining honestly and clearly the challenges we face and what is being done about them, rather than pretend that there is a magic lever within Government to make all of this go away. I think that is absolutely the wrong thing to do.

But I am clear—I do expect people to be seen at the earliest opportunity. And that is why I’m very clear, not just to her, but to other Members in the Chamber, across other parties too, that I do think that waiting times within north Wales are unacceptable. That’s why I expect the health board to improve. That’s why I expect to see a real plan for orthopaedic services in north Wales to make a real difference, not just at a long point within the future, but progressively over the rest of this term as well.