Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:57 pm on 19 September 2017.
Steffan Lewis was absolutely right to start by saying that the proposals in this document are an elaboration of the basic position that we set out in the document that we published jointly between our two parties. I wanted to make sure I’d acknowledged that.
There were two specific questions that Steffan Lewis raised. Copies of our document have been sent widely to the UK Government and shared with colleagues in the Scottish Government as well. Sometimes you have to ask more than once to make sure that you get to discuss the content of these documents with people to whom you think it would be of interest. I have by no means given up the effort to secure such a discussion, both with the Home Secretary and with other Ministers in the Home Office, but also with the Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union, and if we succeed in getting a meeting of the Joint Ministerial Committee on Exiting the European Union, then I’d certainly expect to see this document on the agenda there so that it could be properly shared and discussed with the component parts of the UK.
On the second question, I don’t think we are so very far apart. It’s a question of what you think you should put first, and it still is the clear priority for this Government to have a single migration system that works for all parts of the UK, and we think we outline one that could achieve that here. If that is not to be the preferred option of the United Kingdom, then we’re very much in the same position that Steffan Lewis outlined. Of course we would not want to be in a position where the needs of the City of London were put ahead of the needs of the economies in other parts of the UK, or where a sectoral approach to quotas meant that economic needs of other parts of the economy not reflected in the nature of the Welsh economy would get preferential treatment in the way that quotas were dispersed. If we are in that position, we argue for the Welsh Government to have a quota for Wales that we could disperse.
This document is a work in progress. There is more to be done to elaborate some of the practicalities of that, and we will continue to give thought both to what’s been said this afternoon but to other things that we need to do in order to help shape the future.