Unfortunately, I didn’t have the opportunity to meet the crew. I forget what happened—I think I was in another part of Wales, so I didn’t have the opportunity to meet them, but I was aware that Simon had met them. I’m sure that Simon Thomas is also aware that I spent the day with Roseanna Cunningham, the Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform from Scotland. She came down to Cardiff, mainly to see about our recycling, to see what she could learn from us. We did have a discussion around the DRS.

I’ve commissioned a study around a package or suite of things that I think we can do to reduce waste in packaging. I’m very keen, as you know, to get our recycling rates up. We’re now third in the world. I want to be first in the world. So, it was very helpful to hear what Scotland are doing and, as I say, I’ve commissioned this study, and once that’s been reported to me, we can decide on which aspects of it we do.