5. 5. Debate on the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee's Report on Medical Recruitment

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:30 pm on 20 September 2017.

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Photo of Vaughan Gething Vaughan Gething Labour 4:30, 20 September 2017

Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. I want to thank Members, not just the committee members for their report, but Members for the debate today, and the range of recommendations that we’ve had an opportunity to discuss, and their contribution to helping us deliver a sustainable workforce for NHS Wales.

I recognise, as the committee do too, that there are UK-wide challenges in recruiting and retaining doctors in some specialities, and in particular the point that Dai Lloyd highlighted in his opening remarks: the additional risk created by both Brexit uncertainty and our eventual path out of the European Union. It’s worth again highlighting the view of this Government: we welcome the fact that European Union nationals are here in Wales as doctors and other healthcare professionals, but more than that, as members of the communities that each of us is privileged to represent up and down our country. And, again, to take on board Julie Morgan’s point, there are many doctors that we rely upon to help deliver our services from other parts of the world. And back to your really good example of a really engaged medical workforce who want to carry on being proud of where they and their families are from, but also are incredibly passionate and proud about our national health service, and go out and sell Wales to other parts of the world incredibly effectively.

Of course, the purpose of this committee report was to consider recruitment issues in terms of the medical workforce. Inevitably, there is a significant focus on medical education, but also comments today, and in the report, about other healthcare professionals as well. I want to start by coming back to the statement that I made on 18 July about medical education and training in north Wales. I recognise that the committee did not come out with an explicit recommendation for a new medical school in Bangor, but certainly they were clear that they want to see more medical education and training take place in north Wales, and the recommendation about a centre in Bangor. In my statement, let’s remind ourselves, I recognised the need for increased medical education to take place in north Wales. That is still my view. That is not a fig leaf; that is not something to get through a debate; that is where this Government is. I now confirm my view that a collaborative approach, looking at Cardiff, Swansea and Bangor universities working more closely together, can deliver the increase that we wish to see in medical education and training taking place in north Wales. It’s also worth me saying that all of those parties have confirmed their willingness to make real progress with that work. Those discussions are ongoing, and the detailed arrangements that will need to be put in place, and the challenges that we face, and again—