I’ll tell you this: what the real motivating factor is—. I’ll send you the—[Interruption.] I’ll send you the evidence. The real motivating factor is this: it’s austerity meeting inhumanity. The Government’s own forecasts have shown that HMP Berwyn is going to be the cheapest prison to run in England and Wales. That’s effectively what it is. It’s a big box, but for people. Where is the humanity in that? What we are doing, effectively, is that we’ll be the only country in the world that’s going to be importing prisoners from another country. It’s not good for them, it’s not good for anyone, and the evidence shows that. We are turning the south Wales of now into what New South Wales was 200 years ago. And this allusion that is put about, that this is going to be good for the local economy Port Talbot, it’s completely fallacious, completely dishonest, as the UK Government has admitted. Look, the real driving force here is you’re building the superprisons in order to shut the Victorian prisons. So, 200 jobs in this superprison in Port Talbot, and 600 jobs lost in Cardiff and Swansea. You don’t need a Fields prize in mathematics to work out that that’s a net loss. To put it another way, effectively, there’s your lacklustre response to the steel crisis, and you’re now expecting us to actually celebrate the fact that there’s going to be a net loss to the south Wales economy.

Now, I have to say to the Welsh Government, we’ll listen to what the Minister has to say. There has been an offer by the Basque aluminium company for this piece of land in the Baglan enterprise zone, which was set up as part of the response to the economic crisis. Take that offer. There is a company that is a successful company, which wants to expand and is obviously part of a cluster in terms of metals and materials in that area. So, there’s no actual reason why that offer should be refused. Take it now. Announce today that that offer is going to be accepted.

I have to say, though, that I heard earlier today the comments that the honourable Member—I’m allowed to say that about a Member of the House of Commons, aren’t I?—for Aberavon, Stephen Kinnock, or, as I shall now call him, ‘the grand archduke of Nimbyism’, saying that, actually, it would be all right as long as the prison was moved from Port Talbot to down the road in Swansea. His attitude seems to be that it’s not that he’s against a superprison in south Wales; it’s rather a case of ‘not in my business park’.

Let’s reiterate: Wales does not need superprisons as part of our economic strategy. It’s not good for the prisoners themselves, who should be rehabilitated in their communities. And if they are low-risk prisoners, they should be in the probation service. But, of course, you privatised that, didn’t you? The fact is that it’s not good for our economy. The numbers that have been offered to us in terms of jobs, they’re worthy of the side of a big red bus. And I would say to the Welsh Government: please, the reason we have a Welsh Government is, when the Westminster Government says jump, don’t ask ‘how high?’ When we actually believe that this is not the right way for us as a nation, then we should say so unequivocally, with one voice. We are better than this. The people of Port Talbot deserve better this. Let’s say ‘no’ to this pathetic excuse for an economic policy and social policy that actually should mean that you hang your heads in shame.