Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:21 pm on 20 September 2017.
I appreciate your point that the evidence is mixed, but I haven’t yet found any evidence to show that larger prisons actually reduce reoffending rates. I think that’s the crucial element here. They’re arguing that it does, but yet I haven’t found the evidence that it actually does. It might be approaching it, but I haven’t seen the evidence yet.