I’m very grateful, Llywydd. I took about five interventions. We welcome the Ministry of Justice’s intention to hold a two-day community event that will give visitors and residents the chance to see and comment on the proposals before a formal planning application is made. And I’ve heard many contributions from Members in the Chamber this afternoon, which are all valid conditions around planning, and they should be consolidated and given as evidence in that process.

Llywydd, we call on the Ministry of Justice to make sure that there is full and genuine consultation for the communities that are represented by Members here today. If a planning application is received by the local authority, then residents will have the opportunity to engage with that planning process and I would encourage them to do so. Prison policy is not, as I have said, a devolved matter, but I’d like to share some thoughts on the wider questions posed here today.

I understand that there are not enough places here for the number of category C, low-risk prisoners in south Wales. It had also been suggested that a new prison would deplete local health and education budgets. Let me make it quite clear: as at HMP Berwyn, these services will only be made available if sufficient funding is secured from the UK Government to do so.

I don’t think anyone would disagree with the Ministry of Justice’s wishes to replace ageing, ineffective prisons—as Caroline Jones referred to—with modern, fit-for-purpose facilities in which a rehabilitation culture can be successfully developed. The prison estate and its management are matters for the Ministry of Justice and Her Majesty’s Prison and Probation Service. I would oppose sending anyone to prison unnecessarily. Equally, however, we do need to protect our communities from harm, and prisons clearly have a role to play in that. Dai Rees.