7. 7. Plaid Cymru Debate: Superprisons

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:34 pm on 20 September 2017.

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Photo of Bethan Sayed Bethan Sayed Plaid Cymru 6:34, 20 September 2017

Well, if anything else, I’m glad we’ve had a fiery and engaging debate for those of us who have wanted to have that debate today, but I must say that I am disappointed with the reaction of the Cabinet Secretary because we’re in a week where we’re discussing devolution and the powers that we have. Sometimes, even if you don’t have the powers in your grasp, you have the moral authority to change things as a Cabinet Secretary. You have the power not to release that land to the MOJ. There may be processes that business follows, but you don’t have to always follow that process. You do not have to give the MOJ that list of different pieces of land for them to develop—[Interruption.] Well, they don’t simply have to do that, so do you—? I would like for you to intervene on me, Cabinet Secretary, because you were shaking your head when you said you hadn’t taken an opinion. Do you support this prison? So, then we can actually have you on the record saying if you do or not, because I’m still not sure. Carwyn Jones as First Minister seems to be happy for the prison to come to south Wales. Are you in favour of this prison?