I would hope that the Cabinet Secretary will be able to respond to that specific point when he comes to bring his conclusions.

There remain questions—or perhaps the Cabinet Secretary won’t be able to answer all the questions today. But exactly what role the Government wants Transport for Wales to play is another question as well, and how it will ensure that Transport for Wales has sufficient people with the relevant skills that are required. The committee understands that Transport for Wales has been created to be flexible. But, as time ticks on, like any public body, in order to deliver, it will need clear instructions, clear expectations and sufficient funding and expertise to meet the challenges. There remain questions around how the Government will demonstrate value for money in the new franchise. To my mind, it’s not enough to say, and keep saying, that competitive dialogue drives value for money. Whilst a process can make value for money possible, it cannot itself demonstrate value for money. The process may, after all, be mishandled. The recommendation has been accepted by the Government, yet it’s hard to see, in my view, how Cabinet Secretary’s response moved beyond his evidence to us in April. I’m not convinced it will be enough for the Wales Audit Office, and neither for the people of Wales. We need to see clear evidence that this major contract offers value for the public money involved.