Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:18 pm on 3 October 2017.
Llywydd, I don’t say that those points are not points that need to be considered, but all I have said today is that we intend to consider things, and we will consider the positive case that has been made and we will take into account those arguments that tell us why we might need to proceed carefully. I just wanted to be clear about the status of what I had announced this afternoon.
Adam Price made a series of important points about the agreement that has been reached with Plaid Cymru. We are a Government without a majority. The First Minister said, back in the early summer of 2016 when this Assembly term began, that a Government in our position needs to be able to listen to ideas from other parts of the Chamber and to try to reach agreement where that is possible, and the very careful work that’s gone on over the summer has allowed us to do that. We don’t agree on everything, as Adam Price set out, but the things we have been able to agree on are important, they will make a difference, and they were outlined by him.
Llywydd, I listened, all the way through, to what Neil Hamilton had to say. I almost stopped at one point, but I did continue listening. I think it’s the sort of contribution where the idea of a ‘stream of semi-consciousness’ is the best way to describe it. I did nearly stop listening at the point when he tried to persuade me that I was living in an era of fiscal profligacy and that what people in Wales have had to endure for the last eight years is—and I think I’m quoting him exactly—‘the opposite of austerity’. Well, it does not feel like that, I can tell him, to people who live in my constituency who find that their wages have not gone up over that period, that their services have had to be cut back, and that their prospects of anything better are receding ever further into the future.