Diolch, Gadeirydd. Can I thank all Members? As Russell George said, it’s nice to have Members who are not on our committee actually participating in the debate this afternoon. And can I thank the Cabinet Secretary for the Economy and Infrastructure for his response, particularly to some of the comments we’ve highlighted today?

I’ll just go through a few things. Eluned Morgan highlighted the current implication of the customs rules today—and it’s very important—but she also highlighted something perhaps people didn’t realise: that when we went to Ireland, we actually brought to their attention the possible implications for Irish ports. Because if they did decide to go through the Northern Ireland route, because businesses will take the route of least resistance, of course there would be an implication for the ports of Dublin and Rosslare as well. They hadn’t even thought of that at that point, so I think it’s well worth having these discussions, and the work we did also hopefully helped the Irish Government look at that aspect.

It is devastating to leave the customs union, but it seems that’s the way we’re going. But everyone’s been talking about—I’ll pick one topic—IT solutions; everyone’s talking about it. Just to let you know, I used to lecture in software engineering and software development. I know my colleague Mike Hedges has also been in the IT world. I can tell you that it’s not easy to do a solution for this, and if people think they can do it quickly, and if they’ve got solutions somewhere else because it works somewhere else, I’m sorry, the complications, the complexities, the different requirements, different facilities—it doesn’t transfer automatically. This is a very difficult, complex solution. It is long term, and cannot be done in 12 months, which is the time you’re talking about. Yes, it will be perhaps a longer term solution, and eventually we will get there, but not if we don’t get this right by March 2019.

Yes, the land bridge was highlighted—that the UK will still be a land bridge, probably. They did talk about the options of going via Cherbourg. The timescale on the ferry crossing was a challenge for them, but they didn’t actually rule out the option of increasingly going via the north of Ireland, and therefore that’s what our concern was: that that option would be available to us and to them because of the different arrangements that might be in place.

Rhun, you’re naturally focused upon the impact upon Holyhead and communities in your own area. It could have a devastating impact, if we’re not careful, on Holyhead and the communities around Holyhead, and the businesses and people working there. We didn’t want to see Holyhead, basically the whole town, become a parking bay for lorries, which is what could happen. Because let’s remember one thing: when there are problems in Calais, what happens in Kent? The M20 is shut and becomes a big parking bay for lorries. We do not want solutions like that anywhere. We need to address these issues now to make sure it doesn’t happen.

Simon, yes, again, actually our report focuses very much on the roll-on, roll-off ferries, but you’re quite right that ports do cover other areas. There are many bulk ports in Wales, and fishing, and the implications for fishing, also have to be considered, because Milford Haven does have opportunities to look at how the fishing quotas can be changed and how the fishing industry in Milford Haven can actually change as well. It is important. And Joyce—the effect on the different maritime industries across the whole range, everywhere in that region. Yes, you’re right: get Brexit right, that’s the message we must send, but I don’t think the Government’s doing that at the moment—and I’m talking about the UK Government here, not the Welsh Government.

Can I go to, perhaps, my colleagues—[Interruption.] Yes, Mark.