Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:51 pm on 17 October 2017.
I’m particularly interested in what she’s just said about a disposable plastics tax; as she may be aware, that was actually in Plaid Cymru’s manifesto and that’s the one of the four taxes that we particularly want to promote at this stage. But does she also bear in mind that there might be greater support amongst the Welsh public for a new tax if it was clearly designed to change people’s habits, rather than simply raise money for Welsh Government?