Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 6:24 pm on 25 October 2017.
Yes, it was set up by Iain Duncan Smith. That’s a statement of fact, but he deliberately brought in a chief executive who was not a member of the party. Actually, he was a former communist—certainly, far to the left of the Conservative Party. He deliberately populated the centre with non-Conservatives, and he deliberately has Labour MPs and former MPs on his board of management.