Part of 2. Questions to the Counsel General – in the Senedd at 2:43 pm on 22 November 2017.
I do agree that access to justice is a fundamental right and I worry that the UK Government's perspective is to move to a model where justice is paid for by the users of the courts system. My view, and that of the Welsh Government, is that justice is an essential public good, which is incumbent on the state to provide, rather than expect individuals to pay for the discretionary item.
Welsh Ministers, including my predecessor and also Carl Sargeant, if I may say, expressed our opinions as a Government strongly to the Ministry of Justice on several occasions, including in relation to the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2012 and court closures and indeed the court fees issues, which she has just highlighted now.
You mentioned the employment tribunal fees case. The Supreme Court there found that the Order brought forward by the National Union of Journalists was unlawful under both domestic and European Union law, confirming a number of the points that he Welsh Government had previously made.
The Welsh Government is already in touch with the Ministry of Justice team responsible for the post-implementation review of the Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act, and that review will be crucial in providing an evidence base for looking at an impact of changes to legal aid in Wales.
The Government provides substantial funding to advice services across Wales, with the objective of delivering social welfare services to compensate, in some respects, for the cuts that you just highlighted.