I pay credit to my colleague Lesley Griffiths and those who held the position before her for the fantastic work that's been done on recycling. Back in 2000, we recycled about 4 per cent of waste arisings in Wales. There are stretching targets for the future, but also we need to work with others to make sure that the level of packaging is reduced. It's difficult to do it at the Welsh level, because most of what comes into Wales is packaged and purchased elsewhere, but co-ordinated European action, indeed, worldwide action, to reduce packaging in the first place would reduce waste arisings and make it even easier for us to increase our level of recycling.