5. Will the Cabinet Secretary provide an update on the Welsh Government’s bovine TB eradication programme in Mid and West Wales? OAQ51366

Thank you. Mid and West Wales conjointly encompasses high and intermediate TB areas. Here, we are focusing on developing bespoke action plans for persistent TB breakdowns, which contain measures aimed at clearing up infection. Action plans are agreed in consultation with the farmer, their private vet, and the Animal and Plant Health Agency.

I thank the Cabinet Secretary for that reply. Will she agree with me that, although there is no easy answer or simple solution to the eradication of TB in cattle, one promising way forward is a greater concentration upon genetics? The Agriculture and Horticulture Development Board has put together a genetic index; it is funded by UK farmers, of course, to undertake research and development on their behalf. This will enable us to target strains of cattle that have a greater propensity to resist TB. Therefore, this must for the future be an important element in the Government's overall strategy to eradicate this terrible disease. 

You raise a very important point, and I think you're right: there is no simple solution. Just this morning, I have had a meeting with officials, and that included people who were doing research into this area. You will be aware that, as part of the refresh of the eradication programme, one of the things I promised to bring forward was a target for when I would like to be officially TB free here in Wales, and that is an element of the discussions that we've been having. So, I think it is about bringing many enhanced measures together, but certainly research and development. Going forward, we need to be looking at absolutely everything and learning from other areas and other countries also. 

I certainly welcome the new scheme to tackle bovine TB. I think we all want to see this cruel disease eradicated in both the wildlife population and in cattle. My concern is that no additional pressure is put on farmers who, for too long, have suffered the effects of bovine TB.

Now, you've already answered questions and talked about the significant cut to your budget. Can I ask, in relation to that, in relation to the draft budget, where there is a significant cut to your department, how do you feel that is going to affect how you are able to tackle bovine TB?

There won't be any cut to the funding in relation to eradicating TB. You'll be aware that in the refreshed programme, in part of the programme, one of the things was reducing compensation by 50 per cent, for example, but that's more—. We are looking at—10 per cent, I think it is, of the budget to eradicate TB comes from the EU. So, I could be losing that in the future. So, we need to look at how we can make sure we do have enough funding. But it was one of the questions I was asked last week by the committee in budget scrutiny, but I will just have to find that from the animal health and welfare budget expenditure line. So, I don't think there will be any impact on that at all this year.

One of the saddest things that one can do as a Member representing this region is to receive correspondence from farmers who are suffering as a result of TB on their farms and seeing what happens to their livestock. I received one such message over the past fortnight, talking about the herd being affected and six cows being destroyed on the farm, and they were about to calve too, and that was heartbreaking for the farmer responsible for those cattle.

But one of the things that was also very saddening for her was the fact that the tests that led to the destroying of those cattle were inconclusive tests. Now, I know that we do have to take steps, but I also know that there are more accurate tests available, which are used, for example, in North America. So, what work are you doing to look into whether now, under the new scheme that you have, we are ready in Wales, as a nation, to move towards different tests for TB that are more accurate as we deal with the disease?

I do not underestimate the distress that having a TB breakdown causes to farmers and their families, and I, too, received, I would imagine, the same correspondence that the Member has done. I met with the chief veterinary officer just this morning to discuss it, because it was indeed very distressing correspondence, and I will be writing directly to the farmer myself.

Again, going forward, we need to look at the very best testing that's possible, and if there are examples in other countries, I would want to obviously consider if they could be brought forward to Wales as part of those enhanced measures I referred to in relation to the refresh of the programme.

Steffan Lewis is not in the Chamber to ask question 6 [OAQ51352]. Question 7—Mark Isherwood.