I honestly think that this question, this political question, which is at the centre of global economic policy at the moment, is so important that we have to find a way. Wales has to lead on this question. We cannot be at the sidelines, using excuses. We have to show moral leadership, and we have to find a practical way of doing it in a way that, as much as possible, protects our public services. So, I do urge Labour Members to look at this question again.

Also, to echo some of the other contributions that were made from my own benches, and, indeed, by Caroline Jones as well, in these difficult times, in these difficult political and economic times, we have to show a sense of agency here. We can't just hope for Corbynomics. We need a better Carwynomics. Rather than just talking about nationalising a UK energy company, why aren't we setting up our own publicly owned energy company in Wales, so that we can use those few pots of money that are available there at the UK Government level to actually—[Interruption.] Well, if the First Minister wants to intervene on me, then he can. We need to be smarter in these difficult times. There are good ideas on some of his back benches. There are good ideas out there in wider civil society. We are facing the most difficult challenge economically that we have faced in a generation, and we have to be much more intelligent and much more innovative than we've been to date.