7. Debate on the 'Port Talbot Community Against the Super Prison' Petition

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:51 pm on 6 December 2017.

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Photo of Alun Davies Alun Davies Labour 4:51, 6 December 2017

Thank you very much, Deputy Presiding Officer. I've listened carefully to the debate that's taken place this afternoon, and I'm very grateful to Members for the time that they've taken to participate in the debate, and grateful also for the Petitions Committee and the petitioners, who have taken the time to bring this matter to the attention of the National Assembly. 

The motion in front of us today asks us to take note of this petition. We will do so, we will take note of the petition, but in doing so we will also take note of the debate that it has engendered, and take note of the arguments that have been put forward. We will take note of the debate that we've had today, and the ongoing debate around not only this particular prison, but also the policy that seeks to underpin it.

And in doing so, Deputy Presiding Officer, I would also like to give my own personal thanks to David Rees, who has taken the time to brief me and to talk to me and to meet me to outline the issues that are behind this issue. I'm very grateful to David for the way in which he's approached this matter and the way in which he's informed the Government of the views of the people of Port Talbot.

Can I first of all, Deputy Presiding Officer, in replying to the debate this afternoon, do two things? First of all, to outline the process that has led us to where we are today, but then also to outline the approach that I would like to take in the future.

The Welsh Government was approached by the Ministry of Justice as part of an exercise across England and Wales to identify sites that could be developed for a prison. We regularly engage with businesses and developers in this way, and in this case we supplied a list of 20 sites. We were clearly not a part of the decision process that selected Baglan in Port Talbot as a preferred site, as this was a UK Government-led process—