He's not here either, Mike.

To be serious, I'm not sure giving responsibility for the welfare system to Iain Duncan Smith in 2010 was ever really going to be a good idea. This is the chap who turned up in Merthyr not long after his appointment and said, seemingly on the spur of the moment, that it might be a good idea if some of the locals thought about popping down to Cardiff to look for work, when, of course, the reality was that thousands of people from Merthyr and other Valleys towns were already doing that and had been doing that for some years. So, the universal credit scheme overseen by such a naïve blunderer as IDS was never really likely to be a success.

However, I would repeat that we don't support Plaid's objective in getting the welfare system devolved to Wales. We recognise what the Welsh Government has stated on this count: that this would only place a huge, additional spending burden on the Welsh public. So, while we do share Plaid's concerns over universal credit, we do not share their proposed solution.