I'll start by thanking the Plaid Cymru spokesman for her very warm words at the beginning of her statement. I must say, I think there's probably a fair degree of agreement across the Chamber on these matters.

I will start by answering your final question first, if you don't mind. I certainly do endorse and give a reply that reinforces my commitment to the points that were made by Carl Sargeant. It certainly is my intention to take forward the work and the objectives that he set at that time in the way that he outlined to you. I think the conversation that you repeated between yourself and Carl reflects very well his commitment to many of these issues and that's certainly a commitment that I would seek to undertake and to repeat this afternoon.

In terms of the wider remarks and the questions that you asked on this statement, you began your response, of course, by describing some of the complexities in the current structures that we have available to us. That is a complexity that I sought to outline myself in my answer to Mark Isherwood. And much of that complexity is imposed upon us rather than of our own creation. What I seek to do in this statement this afternoon is to seek to find a way through that complexity by bringing people together, agreeing on what our objectives are and then setting out a very clear work programme that will achieve those objectives.

In answering the Petitions Committee debate on the prison in Baglan last week, I sought there to outline my approach to this area of policy. And, in many ways, you have—. I'm being tempted again, Deputy Presiding Officer, into going perhaps further than my thinking has allowed me to do in the few short weeks I've had this responsibility. But let me say this: I think the work that's been done by the oversight group over the last year, over the last nine months, has been excellent. It's used the auditor general's report as a foundation, but it hasn't been restricted by the auditor general's reports, his findings or his recommendations. It's gone further and sometimes in a different direction to that outlined by the auditor general, and I'm grateful for that tension, if you like, which has delivered what I hope is a reasonable and a well-thought-out policy approach. 

I want to meet the oversight group in the new year in order to understand their thinking along different lines and to understand how we can take forward this work. It is my view that the work that has been undertaken has been groundbreaking in the way it sought to bring together these different areas and different policy fields but also that we need to be able to set some very clear targets for what we want to achieve over the coming years, and it is my intention to do that.

It is also my intention to take forward the work that has begun with the police commissioners. You referred to the work of different police commissioners, and so did Mark Isherwood. They were represented, of course, on the oversight group, and I've been able to meet some police commissioners since my appointment last month. It's my intention to take forward conversations with the police commissioners to ensure that we do have the wider holistic view of policy.

In terms of the overall approach, let me conclude by saying this: I hope that I was clear in answer to a question from Jenny Rathbone last week that I regard youth and female offending as a priority, one where a holistic approach would take the place of previous approaches and one where I would seek to bring together all the devolved services, together with non-devolved services and the Ministry of Justice, in trying to pioneer a different way of working. I believe that is a fundamental tenet of how we approach this area of policy. It is overly complex—I agree with your analysis and your criticism—but for us it isn't sufficient simply to criticise structures. For us, we have to create new structures, new objectives, a clear vision and a means of achieving those ambitions.