Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:57 pm on 10 January 2018.
Would you accept that—? Looking to the not-so-distant future, actually, given the decision—sadly—not to electrify the main line in south Wales beyond Cardiff, in 15 years' time we could be in a position where, actually, most cars will be electric, whereas it will be the trains that will be most polluting. So, don't we need to have a slightly more nuanced approach to this question?