Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:02 pm on 16 January 2018.
Would the Cabinet Secretary give way? I'm grateful for what he's just said and, of course, this is the first time we're looking at a budget that has income generation as well as expenditure within it—and that's a positive change for the development of this place. But has he made any estimate of what would have happened on the expenditure side had we not had those seven years of austerity since the election of the coalition Government back in 2010, and what would be the rough shape of the Welsh budget if that hadn't happened?