5. Debate on a Member's Legislative Proposal

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 3:45 pm on 17 January 2018.

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Photo of David Lloyd David Lloyd Plaid Cymru 3:45, 17 January 2018

I'm proud to rise in support of my colleague Steffan Lewis's excellent presentation on the need—the absolute need—for a Welsh continuity Bill. It's the only way to save our sovereignty here in Wales. Let's be plain: we stand at a crossroads here at the National Assembly for Wales. We have lost powers already with the Wales Act. Since the last referendum, where the people of Wales overwhelmingly voted 64 per cent in favour of increasing the powers of this Assembly, we've managed to pass 22 pieces of legislation, since 2011. Had the new Wales Act been in place since 2011, we would have only been able to pass eight such pieces of legislation. We have already lost powers and we are facing losing more, which is the current pressure on the timeline of the current legislation about minimum alcohol pricing. We must get to the end of Stage 1 of that legislation by April Fools' Day; otherwise, it falls.

Following Brexit, we face losing more powers with the EU withdrawal Bill—powers that we've always had here in the National Assembly for Wales since 1999. Fisheries, environment and agriculture always came from Brussels to Cardiff. Now, all of a sudden, there's going to be a redirection—Brussels to London—with no guarantee for what's going to come on to Cardiff. That is totally and utterly unacceptable. We've had a lot of talk about respecting the results of referendums, and I do. But, let's respect the result of every referendum. That includes the one of March 2011, when the people of Wales voted resoundingly to have more powers in this place. They certainly have never voted to lose powers, and in the last Brexit referendum, they did not vote to lose powers from Wales. In fact, those on the 'leave' side were continuously going on about how leaving the EU would increase the powers we would have in Wales. Well, that's a very hollow promise in the face of a reality of the EU withdrawal Bill and UK Government doing nothing about this Government's honourable amendments to that Bill.

Steffan has proudly led us as a party, and this Assembly, in all his diligent hard work over many months on the whole complicated and vexed issue of the EU withdrawal Bill. I pay tremendous compliments to his hard work, ingenuity and intelligence in scrutinising every little last detail; a shame it is not replicated up in Westminster. Support the continuity Bill. Diolch yn fawr.