I'm very pleased to take part in what I think is a very important debate today. I would like to start my contribution by making three, I think, non-contentious statements: museums are an important asset to our communities; the national museums are very important to every nation, and Wales is no different; to make them successful, we need well-paid and well-motivated staff who are committed to the Welsh museum service.

We've talked about who should control it, but can I ask this question? I do not know the OCS classification of the museums of Wales. I would expect to see them classified as Welsh Government controlled. I'm happy to be corrected on this if somone wants to correct me. I think that if they were a business, they'd be described as wholly owned subsidiaries of the Welsh Government. [Interruption.] I'll take an intervention.