Thank you very much. I'd like to congratulate Siân Gwenllian on having this debate. Equality is very close to my heart and I thoroughly support you in all the things that you've said.

When I was in Westminster, we did discuss the possibility then—the women in Westminster—of trying to get the law to decide that there should be quotas, but the mood wasn't with us. So, instead we passed the legislation that enabled political parties to use positive action to help women become MPs and AMs. That meant that in the Labour Party we were able to use all-women shortlists and we were able to use twinning at the start of this Assembly, which meant that we came into the Assembly with equal numbers of men and women.

That was a painful process. It was a very successful process, but I think we've reached the stage now where we have to have legislation. I think that the proposals by the group that has looked at the future arrangements for the Assembly has come forward with what I see as an absolutely crucial move forward to have 50:50 for all political parties to put equal numbers of candidates up. I don't think it's straightforward because obviously you've got all the issues of which seats are winnable and all those sorts of issues that you look at, but I think there has been such a long history and such a long struggle that we do owe it to everybody in Wales—to women and men—to make sure that we have equal representation here. I just think we must never forget that what we do here in this Assembly is working for the good of the people of Wales, and we're trying to improve people in Wales's lives, and, for that, we need equal representation. We need women to be represented here, and we need all people to be a really good, representative Chamber. So, I'm totally behind you.