5. Statement by the Cabinet Secretary for Education: Securing the Right to a Suitable Education for All Children

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:15 pm on 30 January 2018.

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Photo of Kirsty Williams Kirsty Williams Liberal Democrat 5:15, 30 January 2018

What's crucial is that we make the database as robust as it possibly can be, which is why we are closing the loophole, for instance, with regard to independent schools, so that we can populate the database with those children. That's why we'll be working across Government with colleagues in health to be able to check live birth registers alongside local education maintained schools' registers to identify those children who suddenly are not appearing.

So, I believe that this gives us the best chance—. By putting the emphasis and the responsibility on the state to do this work, I think it gives us the best chance of being able to identify, where at all possible, where these children are and, crucially, then being able to assess whether those children are in receipt of a suitable education. This approach allows us to act now, whereas primary legislation would take longer, and again this is a consideration. But, Llyr, I would be the first person to admit that, having tested the full extent of what this legislation allows us to do—and there are still concerns—we will have to look again. But this gives us an opportunity to act now, and it gives us a real opportunity to test the fullest extent of existing legislation. But you're right that we need to continue to work across Government, below and post compulsory school age, which is why I, the Cabinet Secretary for health and the Minister for social services continue to meet and work on this agenda.

You'll be aware that a task and finish group has been set up by Keith Towler, the previous children's commissioner, to give advice to the Government around issues around invisibility to universal services, and we continue to work with the national independent safeguarding board on how we can improve issues around this area with below and post-compulsory-school-age children.

We need to be a bit careful. This is not about tracking anybody down, Llyr, because that gives a wrong impression, I think, about what we're trying to achieve here. We are trying to assist local authorities to carry out their duty to ensure that children are in receipt of a suitable education. So, we're not looking to track anybody down. I think the words you did use, maybe in inverted commas, were 'track people down'.

Crucial also is the support package. We know that, if children were in school, they would have access to Welsh-medium lessons. That may be an area where, perhaps, home-educating parents feel less confident and less well equipped to be able to offer those opportunities, so we'll be looking at working with the home-educating community to look at realistic proposals about how they can gain the skills to offer that sort of tuition at home or working collectively as a group in some circumstances. So, we're very open to ideas, but this principle of ensuring that children have access to Welsh-medium education and that that might be an area where parents feel less confident is a really important one to me, as well as looking at other issues about, as we said, examination centres, careers advice—. All those things that are available to children who are in mainstream schools I want to make sure are available to children who are home educated also. And I think that's part of our responsibility towards those families.

All of this, I just want to reassure everybody again, is subject to a consultation. So, if the Member has ideas about how he wants this to feed in, then that would be very welcome. But I believe that this gives us the opportunity to really strengthen the law in this area and to give the local authorities the ability for them to be able to be sure. Does that mean we see a child? I don't think it would be possible to make an informed judgment about whether a child is in receipt of an adequate education without seeing a child, and we'll be working on how that should be approached via the statutory guidance.