Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:21 pm on 6 February 2018.
Could I thank the leader of the house for her statement, please? There's a lot in that to welcome and to celebrate. But I think it is worth mentioning that, while we're celebrating this, we are actually marking a milestone rather than the end of the journey. It took another 10 years for the Baldwin Government to introduce equal suffrage, after all, but we've got a long way to go, I think, on equal participation.
The arrival of Nancy Astor—I've got to mention her—in Parliament was of course one of those milestones, and Conservatives have been happy that some of our women representatives have been amongst the first to achieve high office: our two Prime Ministers—I think everybody knows about them, but, of course, they were no strangers to prejudice on their journey—but we've also got people like Betty Harvie Anderson, who was the first woman Deputy Speaker, Janet Young, who was the first Leader of the House who was a woman, Cheryl Gillan, the first woman Secretary of State for Wales, Liz Truss, first woman Lord Chancellor, and, of course, Nusrat Ghani—I'm sure all of us will welcome this—the first woman Muslim Minister to speak at the despatch box in Westminster. They're all role models to women of all political persuasions, just as women of other political persuasions have been a role model to me.
Now, we're all doing better at getting women to stand at all levels here in Wales, and while perhaps getting our first Welsh Conservative woman MP may not be your priority, leader of the house—it'll be a great purple plaque when it happens—I'm sure we do share this aim, which is that universal suffrage doesn't mean as much as it should unless we move towards more universal interest in politics, and this is what my questions are about.
We need more women taking an interest and then believing it's worthwhile voting in the first place, but then of course standing and reflecting back to communities that politics is a serious purpose and it needs an active and diverse—and you referred to the diversity plans in your statement—citizenry to participate and help prioritise what we should be voting about in the first place. So, alongside the action on barriers that we often discuss—caring responsibilities, poverty and so on—I think we need to work on societal attitude and placing greater value on the strengths and interests still primarily associated with women, but which benefit us all. In acknowledging the money made by all Governments in the UK today, especially Welsh Government, could I ask you, in working through the three themes that you mentioned, whether Welsh Government will be offering active support to the Ask Her to Stand cross-party campaign? Because there's plenty of research, I think, now to show that, in the workplace and in candidate applications across party, men are more willing than women to put themselves forward for consideration when they don't fulfil all elements of a job spec or even a candidacy requirement. Occasionally, maybe all you need is someone just to plant that seed and to ask. So, will you be restricting the support you're offering to Wales-only projects, or are you happy for that money to be used for leverage for cross-border projects, or even cross-country projects, really, because what we're celebrating today here is being watched elsewhere?
Will you also be looking to support work that supports that societal change of attitude about what constitutes a strength in our politicians? RECLAIM in my region, for example, has been doing some wonderful work with year 7 and 8 girls—they're not even teenagers—about confidence and leadership; David Rees will know about them as well. Because I would say that a more diverse political class with a range of strengths will give life to new ideas, and I hope that you will be able to help support the removal of intimidation and aggression that's corrupting public discourse at the moment—political discourse—and there is quite a lot of work out there starting.
And then, finally, women's suffrage, of course, is not universal. There's one canton in Switzerland that didn't allow women to vote in local elections until 1991—1991—but that's actually not—. [Interruption.] I'm talking about countries where having the vote is not the same as having power to make a real difference to women's lives. Just a few examples here, if you will permit me, Llywydd: so, we've got Iraq, a constitution that states that a quarter of parliamentary seats and Government positions must go to women, but as of 2015 had no domestic violence laws. Malaysia: you've got YouGov research finding that the majority of people in that country agree that it is still likely to cause problems if a woman earns more money than her husband. Algeria: 32 per cent of the seats are held by women in national Parliaments, but the same study that reaffirmed that reported that Algeria is still more likely to say it's unattractive for women to express strong opinions in public.
I just want to be sure that, as we work to encourage more people in Wales to take part in democracy, participate in it, particularly women, obviously we need to make sure we don't allow claims of women's suffrage to disguise the problems that sometimes it should be helping to solve. Thank you.