Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:31 pm on 7 February 2018.
Thank you, I appreciate that. You quoted Sophie Howe's submission about the wisdom of building roads. Of course, as part of that submission, she also said that building the blue route was not in keeping with the spirit of that either, which is Plaid Cymru's policy. So, to properly embrace her logic, you'd drop road building altogether as the solution to congestion.