Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:05 pm on 7 February 2018.
Diolch, Dirprwy Lywydd. We're here today to debate the proposed expansion of the Welsh Assembly. We heard earlier from the Presiding Officer about the report of the expert panel, which has recommended expansion, and about the public consultation that will now take place. We in UKIP believe that the expansion proposals represent a huge change that will be very costly. We have to establish that there is popular consent for it, and that consent can only be demonstrated by way of a referendum. That is why I'm moving today's motion to that effect in the name of Neil Hamilton.
Now to the amendments. There is only one, from the Labour group. We've had a good hard look at their very detailed amendment, which says, 'Delete all after point 1', and we've decided, after much robust discussion, that we oppose the amendment.
Now, the main premise of the report is that there is now so much legislation going through the Assembly, requiring so much scrutiny, that it is all too much for the 60 Assembly Members that we currently have. The suggestion is that we increase the size of this place to something like 80 Members or, more preferably, 90. So, the first thing we need to look at is this: is it true that we are all overworked as Members of this place?