8. Debate: The Final Police Settlement 2018-19

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:59 pm on 13 February 2018.

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Photo of Mick Antoniw Mick Antoniw Labour 4:59, 13 February 2018

I, first of all, would like to put on record the tremendous work, for example, that the PCSOs do, and the considerable difference that the 500 PCSOs funded by Welsh Government have actually made to our communities. Those of us who have walked round our communities with those PCSOs actually realise and recognise the significant contribution they are making to our communities and the additional resource that they actually are. And also the same in terms of the police, who are working under the most difficult circumstances and considerable pressures.

The background to what is happening with the underfunding and the cuts—the real cuts—that have been made in policing in Wales is this: police numbers are now the lowest for 30 years, Wales now has 680 fewer police officers than it had, violent crime in the past 12 months has gone up by 20 per cent, knife crime is up 26 per cent and unsolved crimes are up from 74,000 to 86,000. The link between that and the underfunding and the cuts to policing is unquestionable.

In 2015, Government Minister Karen Bradley said that the Conservatives are not cutting funding to the police. And I've listened to what the opposition spokesman has actually said—what I believe is a fantasy land, sleight of hand of figures. Of course, when Karen Bradley made that statement, there is an organisation called Full Fact, which actually checks the actual statements that have been made across the board of all political parties, and they checked it against the ONS statistics, and this is what the ONS statistics actually say: 

'Police funding fell from 2010/11 to 2015/16...by 18%, taking inflation into account.'

They also say:

'That compares to a 31% increase in funding between 2000/01 and 2010/11.'

Those were the Labour years. So, what is very clear, we heard earlier today—[Interruption.] Yes, I'll take an intervention.