I very much agree with the points that were being made by the Member for Newport East. I think he understands exactly that, in delivering a different model for local government, we need to do so in a way that is holistic, delivering powers for local government to act in a way that enables them to follow a holistic approach in their communities, shaping their communities, and creating great places to live and work that are great for families, a sense of place and a sense of community.

What we want local authorities to be able to be in the future is a shaper of communities, creating not just services for people but creating places where people can live and thrive. That's the sort of vision that I have, and it goes back to the earlier questions from the Plaid Cymru spokesperson about not just the shape and the structures of local government in the future, but also the powers and responsibilities for local government. I've tried to be very clear in the points that I've made in this role: that I see a great future for local government as an enabler of community services as well as a provider of community services, and I want to see local government strengthened in the future, more able to deliver not just statutory services but a great way of living for people wherever they happen to be in Wales.