6. Member Debate under Standing Order 11.21(iv): Criminal Justice

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:09 pm on 7 March 2018.

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Photo of Jenny Rathbone Jenny Rathbone Labour 4:09, 7 March 2018

Diolch, Llywydd. We lock up more people in England and Wales than any other country in western Europe. If we go on that way, we are going to catch up with the United States, which currently spends more on its equally ineffective prison system than they do on the education of their children. Ineffective, because it doesn't lead to change in people's behaviour. Even by the UK Government's own admission, two thirds of prisons are overcrowded; people are locked up most of the day; rates of self-harm, suicide and murder are at an all-time high. By no stretch of the imagination can the conditions in Her Majesty’s Prison Swansea or Her Majesty’s Prison Liverpool—described in excruciating detail by Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Prisons—be considered rehabilitating. That isn't to dismiss the heroic efforts of individuals who work with prisoners in disgraceful conditions, but we have to acknowledge that the system as a whole is not working and a change of approach is needed. For far too long, penal policy has been dominated by the high-pitched headlines of the tabloids. Until recently, the top politician in charge of the misnomered Ministry of Justice thought it was a whiz idea to deny prisoners books until it was thankfully ruled unlawful by the High Court.