Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:19 pm on 7 March 2018.
I'm very grateful to him for giving way. I support what he's saying, of course, but does he share my concern that that consultation on the wider question was actually allowed to be dominated by external consultants, if you like, who brought their own agenda, rather than settling this question, which is the one the public in Wales are interested in?