Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:58 pm on 13 March 2018.
As you mentioned, the Public Accounts Committee—and clearly we were both involved with that evidence session on Supporting People—. Would you agree with me that I think everyone in this Chamber is united in wanting to deal with the problems that you've identified very clearly in your speech? The question is: will this particular measure really deliver that change? Because I think at the moment the sense I'm getting is that there's not a conviction in this Chamber that it does.