9. Debate on the Children, Young People and Education Committee report on Teachers' Professional Learning and Education

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 4:17 pm on 14 March 2018.

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Photo of Hefin David Hefin David Labour 4:17, 14 March 2018

Yes, it was; thank you, Chair. It was accepted in principle.

One of the issues with the standards: I want them to be a key part of the successful educational landscape, but, at 106 pages, they're quite a hefty document. Now, I know exactly what the Cabinet Secretary will respond with—they're meant to be used interactively. I'm yet to see the interactive, online use of this document. I wouldn't like to think that teachers would have to print out these standards and learn them. Also, some of the language used in the standards, I still believe, is rather opaque, especially for a teacher who is, at the end of a working day, very busy, is a bit frazzled, and has little time to sit down and think. I still am not convinced by the language used in the standards, and I felt that, when Professor Mick Waters gave evidence to the committee, he took a bit of a Panglossian approach to the use of the standards. He gave some very, very good evidence and it was very well presented, but I just felt that, sometimes, he was reluctant to face challenge, slightly, on how those standards might be difficult for a teacher to use if trying to use them quickly.

Finally, recommendation 23 says that

'the Cabinet Secretary should ensure that there is greater support for the use of the Professional Learning Passport given its potential, and the resources already spent on it.'

I've actually been to the EWC and had a go at using the professional learning passport. It clearly has a value. In her response, she said that users

'need to be confident that the PLP meets practitioners’ needs so increasing numbers are convinced about the perceived value of engaging with the PLP.'

It definitely has a value, particularly, I imagine, if it's used in conjunction with Hwb. So, as an online tool, if you've got a teacher in Conwy and a teacher in Caerphilly doing the same kind of lesson plans, it's an excellent tool to share that and prevent duplication, and share good practice. What I'm not convinced about is that it's been rolled out quite as widely and universally as it could be. I don't think practitioners are currently buying into it, but they could, because it's a good tool. I've seen it, and I would welcome it if I was a teacher myself. I think, therefore, the Cabinet Secretary should be extolling the virtues of the PLP, the professional learning passport, and encouraging its take-up.

So, on the whole, a very good response from the Government to the report, other than, in small parts, 'in principle'. I'd like to see some further acceptances. [Interruption.] Michelle Brown's having a very late—[Interruption.] And with that, I'll draw my remarks to a close.