7. Statement by the Minister for Welsh Language and Lifelong Learning: The Employability Plan

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:18 pm on 20 March 2018.

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Photo of Baroness Mair Eluned Morgan Baroness Mair Eluned Morgan Labour 5:18, 20 March 2018

(Translated)

Thank you very much. First of all, I’m pleased that you acknowledge that it’s ambitious, but I do think that we should be ambitious. We should be clear about where we want to reach. We’re not going to do this overnight, but what was really important to me was that we were entirely clear where we wanted to reach and that we put steps in place in order to reach that point.

So, how are we going to reach those levels? Well, if you think about something like reaching level 4 in terms of skills, for example, we are around 50,000 people behind as compared to England. Well, there are 100,000 apprenticeships here, and one of the things that we’re trying to do is to push people along that skills pathway so that more people have level 3, 4 and 5 apprenticeships, and there are fewer on the lower levels. On the lower levels, we are reaching more or less the same target as in England, so we need to push that further, and that’s what we’re doing at the moment. So, I think we’re on the right track there.

In terms of the learning accounts, I’m aware that this has been done in the past. I think that we do have to have some kind of practical response to the fact that automation is going to happen and that we need to have something for people who are already in the world of work. How are we going to upskill them and give them an opportunity to move ahead? So, things have changed. No funding will be changing hands as happened in the past—things have been digitalised, you can do things differently—and that’s why we want to trial a pilot to see what will be possible in that particular area, before we consider whether we should expand that across the whole of Wales. We’re waiting for the report on adult learning and what we should do in that particular field, but I’m very aware that we do need to do some work in that field. Hopefully these learning accounts will feed into that as well.

In terms of tracking individuals, what we’re doing here is tracking unemployed individuals. So, let’s start there. One of the things we’re not going to do once we’ve given them work is to just let them go, because we know, especially with those people with low levels, when they go into work for the first time, they tend to fall out of the system. So, we’ll be tracking them at least for six months, to ensure that we do keep them in the world of work and give them the support. Because that’s one of the problems: we can’t just let them go the moment that they’re in the workplace. Some of these people have quite significant needs and we do need to be there for them during that period.

In terms of apprenticeships, there are more apprenticeships through the medium of Welsh. The Urdd undertakes a lot of them, but I do think that this is an area we should look into, so let me consider whether that’s something that we’ll be thinking about in future.