8. Welsh Conservatives Debate: The Permanent Secretary's investigation report

Part of the debate – in the Senedd at 5:27 pm on 18 April 2018.

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Photo of Neil McEvoy Neil McEvoy Independent 5:27, 18 April 2018

I put the motion to use section 37 to get the report published because ignoring this Assembly is an affront to democracy. It seems that the Conservatives liked my motion so much that they put it in themselves, and I'm glad they did that because we're debating this sooner than we otherwise would have done.

Not long ago, I asked the First Minister to introduce legislation to regulate lobbyists. I notice today that he is absent from this debate. It's something I've called for since being elected to this Assembly, and it's something that happens in all major democracies surrounding Wales. His answer in that debate was very interesting. He said that it's not right for the Government to introduce legislation such as this; it's a matter for the Assembly corporately. So, here we are deciding corporately, as an Assembly, on this matter of whether an inquiry into potential Government leaking should be published, but instead of allowing us to decide on this matter the First Minister has responded with legal threats and challenges. I think that shows a Government's priorities: do nothing on lobbyists but try to intervene to stop open Government from taking place.

The First Minister alleges that releasing this document would stop government from being able to take place, and he seems to think that unless he can operate in the shadows and keep things hidden from the public then he cannot govern. For this Labour Government he may be right, because if the Welsh people were ever to get the chance to see what goes on behind closed doors, I don't think he'd be in his job much longer. He also doesn't seem to place much faith in the democratically elected representatives of Wales to use section 37 wisely. It's been available for years—years—and it's only now, on an incredibly important matter of public interest, that it's being used for the first time.

If the First Minister operated his Government in a more transparent way, we wouldn't need to use it at all. I hope on this matter we can, as an Assembly, vote so that the public can see the outcome of the inquiry. It's the Welsh people we need to protect and it's the integrity of this institution. I'll be voting in favour of this motion, because this is about democratic accountability and the integrity of Welsh democracy. Diolch yn fawr.